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	<title>Comments on: Church &amp; Politics &#8211; An Un-Holy Alliance</title>
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	<description>Just being myself</description>
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		<title>By: xxxxx</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poy valapaniyum nokada</description>
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		<title>By: Suresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should not mix relegion and politics.. It is not good for any country.</description>
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		<title>By: Anup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still do not understand how India can call herself a secular state. Secular is fundamentally the separation of state and church. The state does not interfere in religious activities and the church stays away from matters of state. And the state shows no preference to any religion. However in India the so called &#039;minority&#039; religions seek and get special rights. And the church in kerala is now openly a political organization. I am not sure why the &#039;faithful&#039; allow the priests and bishops to keep saying all this without questioning them. The church is a dictatorship. I have never seen the church ask the opinion of the laity.

About the war with commies - well the commies won the election and has the mandate of the people, maybe not the mandate of the Christians. So when they implement policies, it because they were elected to do so. If you do not like it then vote them out in the next election. But you cannot take to the streets and claim special rights. Anil say&#039;s that elections are the time for the church to show its power - when did the church become a power center? I go to church for my spiritual needs, not to get a political lesson. 

Now I read pieces of cardinal vithiyathil&#039;s book. He says BJP is better than the commies. BJP &amp; the hinduvata movement is openly fascist and they want a Hindu nation with all other religious groups to be subordinate to them. Plus the cardinal says that the commies will go to any extend to establish a classless and casteless society - well isn&#039;t that the message of Jesus, all people are equal. The commies may be atheists and they will not allow a politically powerful church, but in India the commies have never stopped anyone from practicing their religion, not even in their party! And in India they do not have a history of prosecuting people on the basis of religion. Imagine what will happen if the Sangh Parivar was to be in power - either we will all be killed (Godra) or converted to hinduism. And the cardinal is OK with this! He says the BJP upholds moral values - see whats happening to women wearing jeans in bangalore? So the cardinal is only bothered about the church&#039;s power not what happens to the people.

I am not saying the commies are right on everything, given their history in china and russia, but so far in India they have stuck to democratic principles. Even in India they have history of supporting the chinese during the indo-china war. And some of their economic policies are plain dump.  My point is the church should keep away from politics and stick to spiritual matters. If they commies have been elected let them rule. To me the church&#039;s politics has to do with its power and the church as an organization/corporation and it has nothing to do with the welfare or spiritual needs of the faithful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still do not understand how India can call herself a secular state. Secular is fundamentally the separation of state and church. The state does not interfere in religious activities and the church stays away from matters of state. And the state shows no preference to any religion. However in India the so called &#8216;minority&#8217; religions seek and get special rights. And the church in kerala is now openly a political organization. I am not sure why the &#8216;faithful&#8217; allow the priests and bishops to keep saying all this without questioning them. The church is a dictatorship. I have never seen the church ask the opinion of the laity.</p>
<p>About the war with commies &#8211; well the commies won the election and has the mandate of the people, maybe not the mandate of the Christians. So when they implement policies, it because they were elected to do so. If you do not like it then vote them out in the next election. But you cannot take to the streets and claim special rights. Anil say&#8217;s that elections are the time for the church to show its power &#8211; when did the church become a power center? I go to church for my spiritual needs, not to get a political lesson. </p>
<p>Now I read pieces of cardinal vithiyathil&#8217;s book. He says BJP is better than the commies. BJP &amp; the hinduvata movement is openly fascist and they want a Hindu nation with all other religious groups to be subordinate to them. Plus the cardinal says that the commies will go to any extend to establish a classless and casteless society &#8211; well isn&#8217;t that the message of Jesus, all people are equal. The commies may be atheists and they will not allow a politically powerful church, but in India the commies have never stopped anyone from practicing their religion, not even in their party! And in India they do not have a history of prosecuting people on the basis of religion. Imagine what will happen if the Sangh Parivar was to be in power &#8211; either we will all be killed (Godra) or converted to hinduism. And the cardinal is OK with this! He says the BJP upholds moral values &#8211; see whats happening to women wearing jeans in bangalore? So the cardinal is only bothered about the church&#8217;s power not what happens to the people.</p>
<p>I am not saying the commies are right on everything, given their history in china and russia, but so far in India they have stuck to democratic principles. Even in India they have history of supporting the chinese during the indo-china war. And some of their economic policies are plain dump.  My point is the church should keep away from politics and stick to spiritual matters. If they commies have been elected let them rule. To me the church&#8217;s politics has to do with its power and the church as an organization/corporation and it has nothing to do with the welfare or spiritual needs of the faithful.</p>
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		<title>By: anil</title>
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		<dc:creator>anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Election is the only time when the common people get there chance to pay back for the all stupidity of the politicians. In the same way elections are the only time when church gets to show its power to the commies for the stupidity they do. What is wrong in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election is the only time when the common people get there chance to pay back for the all stupidity of the politicians. In the same way elections are the only time when church gets to show its power to the commies for the stupidity they do. What is wrong in that.</p>
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